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tanker
My one and only pickelhaube. Ron

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helmhunter
Hi Ron,
You have a nice M1915 prussian haube. I don't know about the kokades but it is in great shape. Any markings on the skirt ?
Phil
ROBB
A fine example of a spiked helmet ,its the same as mine .Rob.
musashi
Hi Ron,

Yes, Rob and Phil are totally right, thats a very nice M15 Prussian huabe you have there, it seems that everything is still intact and the helmet body is solid.The kokarden looks original.

These hauebs are geting rarer nowadays, now that we enter the 21st century, these haubes are already very old and ancient 00009176.gif

And like Phil, is there any marks on the rear visor?

I love your haube, its very nice!
cheers,
Mush

BTW,

Here is a guide in preserving and displaying oour haubes, Tony did this ver excellent guide.

http://www.kaisersbunker.com/preservation/index.htm

hope this helps,
Mush
Bryan Avery
Very Nice! I just picked one up in similar condition I am really looking forward to its arrival. It will be my first as well

Bryan
tanker
Thanks gentleman
There are no markings on the skirt. The only markings I can see are in the dome. It is dated 1916 and also a double circle with a name on the top and Berlin at the bottom. They are faint and very hard to make out though.
Musashi, did you get my email about the Pickelhauben book, I am selling? Thanks, Ron

dome stamp
helmhunter
Hi Ron,
I confirm nice one. As there is no marking on the skirt it could be one of those haubes brought back from germany to the States just after WW I and sold as "dommages de guerre". These haubes were almost all in mint condition.
Phil
tanker
Hello Phil
What does "dommages de guerre" mean? Ron
helmhunter
Hi Ron,
Sorry for my poor english, "dommages de guerre" means what Germany had to pay to the allied nations after the WW I. I don't recall the words in english.
Hope it's clearer.
Phil
musashi
Hi Ron,

Wow, it seems that everybody is having haubes with great liner! I made a couple of mistakes of rushing in buying haubes, and ended up buying huabes with lousy liners.
The round mark is the maker's mark and the 1916 is obviously the year it was marked/made.
The non existence of other marks (like Bryan's BAIV mark), explained perhaps this haube is never issued at all, and the clothing depot was ransaked by allied soldiers and this haube was taken as trophies or as War Bond Loan haubes. Hence the very good condition of the haubes and liner.
Phil, is the word War Bond Loan you are looking? 00009176.gif

Like the ones Randy is selling:

http://ageofkingsmilitaria.com/Sell_4_Link1.htm

Ron,
In the pickelhaube book by Johannson, page 7, there is a pic of allied soldier wearing haubes, tsakos, steel helmets of a recently overran warehouse, some of them were even wearing Meckelmburg tsakos, Saxon M15 haubes etc.

Nevertheless, what you have is a very neat M15 prussian haube with a killer liner, and its really amazing that everybody is having haubes with such a killer liner! 00009176.gif And the previous owner(s) had indeed taken very good care of the haubes, the top part (spike and spike base area) has nt sunken, the front and rear visor is still in very good shape, still 'flaring out', nt bended in any way, like my Wurtt EM haube, notice the rear left side visor, darn! bash.gif

Hope this helps,
Mush
tanker
Thanks Mush
Do you think it would ever be possible to find out who the maker is on my helmet? Has anybody else seen this maker mark on their helmets? Also, does not being issued effect the price? Thanks again, Ron
helmhunter
Hi Mush,
Thank you for your help. Nice haube to sell on the website you sent.
BTW did you receive my mail ?
best regards
Phil.
tanker
I am thinking of selling my helmet with some of my other collection, but not sure what the current market is for them. I think I will have to do some research on prices. Ron
musashi
Hi Ron,

Yes, its possible to find out the maker's of yr helmet,can you read the mark more clearly? I cant really figure out the alphabets, and most haube makers used either round or oval mark stamp. Like my Rgt 9th Grenadier "Colberg 1807" haube, the maker's mark is round.
And there are a lot of german haube makers, a fact that also took me by surprise, as I thought they were only a handful of haube makers, it seems that haubes making was a good business.

These are just examples of haube makers:
Alexander Behl Barmen

Br Jsa ,Gebr Israel, W. Jaeger , Wilh. Jaeger, Hans Romer, Moritz Stecher Freiburg-sa , Ed. Schultze Potsdam etc.

As for price, well, it all depends on certain factor. The presence of unit marks,garniture marks etc will increase the value of the haube even more actually, as the haube has 'historical background'. Of course, the condition of the haube (liner, trimmings, etc) itself plays a great role.

Hi Phil,

Yes, it seems that Randy has lots and lots of very very nice haubes, he even has a Mecklemburg officer haube!! and its U$ 4500
http://ageofkingsmilitaria.com/Sell_4_Link2.htm

Anhalt reserve officer haube, baden foot arty haube, DARN!!, they are ALL so beautiful and so expensive

Btw, i had send you an email.

Cheers,
Mush
tanker
Hello Mush
I really appreciate the help and hope I am not bothering you too much. I had collected WW2 items but had this hauble displayed with my pre war broomhandle.
I did get the email and thank you.
I will have to look at the again and try to see what it says. Sometimes I can get more out it by just glancing at it rather than staring at it for any length of time. At least I can narrow it down to a Berlin maker.n If I can get better pics, do you want me to send them? Thanks again, Ron
musashi
Hi Ron,

No, you are nt bothering me at all, I am always learning something new here, and I am learning again from your haube. infact, your haube and question is very useful to the forum.

You mentioned abt 'the Berlin maker', does the word 'Berlin' readable?
And yes, pls send the pics to me, I really appreciate it very much.


Btw, you have a broomhandle?? Now, thats awesome, Luger and Broomhandle are my fav gun since I was a kid. I have never seen a broomhandle before, only on pics. How big it is in reality? How does it perform? Is it heavy?

Pls post the broomhandle pics, Ron. Would really like to see it. 00009176.gif
tanker
Hello Musashi
The Berlin in the name is readable (faint though) but the upper name is hard to read. It looks like it has 6 letters and the last name has 7 or 8 letters. I think that if I could find Berlin makers and compare teh logo, I could possibly find my maker.
I have never fired my broomhandle. It is a prewar (1912) and is in a 1916 harness so I assume it was brought into war use. It looks awkward but balances perfectly when held. I hear they shoot well though. I do not want to risk damage to the condtion, so it I won't shoot it. I compared it to my artillery luger. Thanks again, Ron
musashi
Hi Ron,

Thats an extremely beautiful Mauser broomhandle you have there! I am so very envious, its really in the best shape. Yes, I wouldnt fire it if I were you, oo, its just too pricelss.
And that arty luger! What a piece! Those 2 are my dream piece.

And you are so right in owning a haube, they just look so match up together, perhaps you should start looking for a kugerl/arty haube? 00009176.gif

How many bullets does the Mauser take? How do you 'cock'/armed the gun? And does the wooden stock fits very well with the mauser?

Again, those are extremely very nice pieces, and in great condition, too. very very envious!

Enviously yours hapy0003.gif

Mush
tanker
Hello Musashi
Thank you for the kind words. I am afraid at todays prices, I would not be able to collect. Since retiring in 1997, less money coming in and prices going up!. This broomhandle take 10 rounds (there are other variations that take anywhere from 6 to 20 rounds). They are loaded via a stripper clip through the top of the reciever. This stock attaches just right (Even thoug) it has a number different from the pistol). It came with it so I think it has been with it for a while. I am not sure what the significance of the symbol is on the left receiver, but I thought it was interesting. I attached a couple of pics to show the stock. I hope I don't take away space from the helmets or upset anybody with the posting of it. If so, please feel free to remove any of the pics. By the was, where are you located? Take care and thanks again for all the help. Ron
P.S. The artillery luger is a 1916 Erfurt. I have shot it and it is very acurate with the long barrel.

Iron Cross symbol on left rear panel.
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