Hi gang,

greatwar.com is selling an EM GdC helmet with the parade eagle.
Hey, Jerry, its on yr dream wish list, right? Its certainly in mine

http://www.greatwar.com/product.cfm?catego...product=1408803


cheers,
mush

WOW....only $9000! Think I'll take out a second mortgage on the house or sell the car! Man.....a gorgeous lid but that's serious money. I don't know much about these but I bet it's safe to say that these are SUPER rare!

Looks to be in great shape!!! Certainly a top shelfer!

Rob

I agree it does seem pricey ,but then again these real ones are very scarce and they do look quite magnificent.Rob.

Hi gang,

Yeah, thats a rare piece, especially when it comes with the correct parade eagle, man, its just awesome...and it comes with a 'nice' price tag, too...darn!

Actually there IS another kurassier helmet which is even more rarer than the Prussian GdC. The Prussian GdC and the Prussian Garde Kurassier wore the same helmet with parade eagle. And in 1890 the trumpeters were allowed to wear the eagle, too.
The very rare and I think is much more beautiful, massive and impressive than the Prussian GdC/Garde Kurassier is the Sachsen Garde Reiter (Saxon Guard Heavy Cavalry), it has a massive LION on top the metalhelme. The lions were splendidily designed and crafted as well, and the Saxon had only a single Garde heavy cavalry, and to makes it even rarer, the Lion was only introduced in 1907. Hence, I think it had only a life span of 7-9 years.
The price tag? Well, I saw the only one on weitze some years back, and its ard 45.000 euros, mein Gott!!

Will try to post some pics of the Sachsen Garde Reiter helmet.

Cheers,
Mush

Another GdC, this one is an officer's and the owner wasnt just any officer,he was a Graf (count), hence this haube belongs to a nobility.

The price? U$26.995....well, Ken's price is very steep indeed....


http://www.derrittmeister.com/productpages/04444.htm

cheers,
Mush

I don't collect them but I can certainly appreciate the beauty. Spectacular!

Hi Musashi,
thanks for your pm ! Everything is fine !

That´s a nice helmet, for sure. Price isn´t out of range imo. They are scarce, especially when the are in good and in original condition.

What puzzles me is:



Is there any reason for extra holes in the dome ?

Best;
Jerry

Hi Jerry!

Great to have you around! It seems that both derr reitmeister and greatwar's helmets have an extra on the helmet on where the spike base is attached.
I can only think of Ken's more plausible answer. He said that the owner was probably a Fanhrich (officer candidate). A fanhrich was enttled to wear/use SOME of an officer charateristic, well, I dont have a GdC myself, so this opinion is based on assumption and reference alone, I could be wrong.

In Stubbs book, page 140 & 141, there is a Fanrich GdC, it has the step visor just like officer's, the parade eagle is also wearing a gilded crown just like officer's, BUT the spike base is oval/football shaped, which is EM's style, officer's used a clove leaf/cruciform like spike base.

Perhaps the owner entered the service as a Fahrich and was later promoted to Oberleutenant, so Ken said, and why bought 2 expensive identical helmet, just drilled more holes to accomodate the clove leaf spike base, the oval's former holes will be covered by the clove leaf anyway.

But i cant think of any answer for Dean's 1867 GdC, perhaps it was true as well, it has been in service since at least 1867-1889, when the EM kurassier's front visor was changed from step visor like officer's to a rounded one. Perhaps again, the wearer was involved in wars, field duties and one way or another, the spike was detached/torn and, well, field repair depot didnt always have exact spare, hence the extra holes.
We need more pics for the Greatwar.com GdC helmet. I am curious whether the rear raised ridge reinforcement is present.

Pls check out Tony's great referance abt Kurassier's helmet, infact he own 2 of them, a 1862 and 1889 EM kurassier
http://www.kaisersbunker.com/pt/metalhelme.htm

Notice also the different spike base on both helmets, clove leaf for officer's and oval for EM.

But if I had the money, I will go for greatwar's, its an older 1867 GdC!

Hope this helps,

Mush

it turns outthat der rittmeister also has a 1867 kurassier metalhaube, but its nt a GdC, its a Line Rgt Reserve Officer Kurassier metalhelme..and its for sale at U$ 6.995--what a price!

http://www.derrittmeister.com/productpages/04328.htm

the older helmets does looks massive!

cheers,
Mush

Here it is, guys.

The Sachsen Garde Reiter (Saxon Guard Heavy Cavalry) EM helmet with the parade lion. The lion was only used from 1907 onwards, and I dont think they were used during wartime parades.
It stands next to the Prussian GdC/Garde Kurassier parade helmet, isnt it stunning?

Will try to scan the officer's version of the Sachsen Garde Reiter helmet pics and post them, as usual the pvt purchase version of the lion is much defined. When nt in parade, the Sachsen Garde Reiter used a spike just like a Prussian kurassier.

The price? Phew, I have no idea....but weitze sold it once for euro 45.000, I think....

Cheers,
Mush